meeeshelley replied to your post: theladyvalette replied to your post: JESUS CHRIST…
I’m convinced all just be sob-screaming when I finish Clockwork Princess no matter how it ends. WHAT FUN TO LOOK FORWARD TO IN MY FUTURE.
Basically.
THERE IS NO HAPPY ENDING. THERE IS NO WAY ANYTHING CAN END HAPPILY. HOW CAN I LOOK FORWARD TO A BOOK THAT IS GOING TO SHATTER ME AND SUCK OUT MY SOUL WORSE THAN THE DMV DID?!
theparallelpersona inquired: "Ashlieee. I was just sitting here thinking about when Clockwork Princess comes out and how I am actually looking forward to reading it if only to have all you guys here to talk to. And how there are going to be so many feels and I'm going to end up dying on the floor because JEM AND WILL AND TESSA and everyone and I don't even know why I'm messaging you all of this so randomly but I LOVE ALL OF YOU. (Also, I still haven't read CoLS because I'm afraid and everyone seems to be hating on it. D:)"omg you know I will be here still like alfjdlkfaj WE MET BECAUSE OF CLOCKWORK PRINCE :3 -holds- SO MANY FEELS LIKE PART OF ME IS KIND OF SCARED TO READ IT BECAUSE I KNOW IT’S GOING TO RIP ME UP AND IT WON’T END HOW I WANT IT TO END BECAUSE I DON’T KNOW HOW I WANT IT TO END AND THERE’S NO WAY FOR IT TO HAVE A HAPPY ENDING AND THINGS WILL KILL ME AND THERE WILL BE MESSY SOBS AND TUMBLR RANTS AND BARFS OF FEELS ;A; BUT IT’LL BE OKAY COS WE’LL ALL BE IN THE SAME BOAT. RIGHT? RIGHT?
<3 alfjdflkja I don’t mind the random message at ALL! It’s been crazy long since we even talked so IT’S THE PERFECT WAY TO OPEN A CONVERSATION RIGHT? <3
but alfjdklfajd oh gosh CoLS :( I haven’t heard good things. Like everything I’ve heard makes me want to avoid it even more and afljdflakj ugggggghhhh :| THERE’S JUST SOME REALLY QUESTIONABLE THEMES AND THINGS GOING ON IN THAT BOOK :/
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@cassieclare so i finished the Clockwork Prince.
I really hope you kill James in the next book! Love him but he’s got to go!
…becauae this book series is only about Tessa’s choice between Will and Jem, right?
This is Will’s parabatai. His best friend. The person he loves more than anyone - even Tessa. Imagine he broken up Will would be if /when Jem dies. You think this is a good idea? Gracious, that’s horrifying. Wishing death just… Wow! And all in the name of shippping?
I can’t imagine that Will would even be able to be wuth tessa if Jem died. Talk about painful and depressing.
Sometimes I feel like I’m the only person in the TID fandom who doesn’t ship Will/Tessa at all.
Even most Jem/Tessa shippers have Will/Tessa as a side otp or something, and I’m just sitting here singularly shipping Jem and Tessa. Either that or neither. Gosh that sounds so cruel. I love Will, I truly do, and of course he deserves happiness! But I’m just a wee bit tired of his archetype always getting the girl. My love for his type of character only goes so far. I want the nice, subtle and sweet guy to get the girl for once. Sighh.
I do admit that I ship Will/Tessa a little bit, but it’s not a very high-ranking ship for me. It pretty much goes like…
1. Jem/Tessa
2. Simon/Tessa
3. Magnus/Tessa
4. Tessa/Birds (don’t ask)
5. Gabriel/Tessa (There’s decent fanfic for this, honest…)
6. Random YA crossover characters/Tessa
7. Will/Tessa
Though lately, I have been trying to remind myself of why I do like Will/Tessa a bit, even if I prefer it to be one-sided. Most of Will’s appeal extends from being particularly witty or not conforming fully to said archetype. (I.E. with his bookishness or vulnerably sad origin).
Though one of the things I LOVE about this triangle is that all the characters are fleshed out and so much more than their archetypes. It’s true that Jem is nice, subtle, and sweet. But looking back on things, he’s not THAT subtle, and I like that his niceness has a limit (beginning of Fierce Midnight). And his sweetness, I think, does tend to get exaggerated by other people. After all, he willingly confessed that the way he cheers himself up when he gets too angry at Will is to go to Blackfriar’s Bride and ponder ways of strangling him. (He said it jokingly, but I think he was also being a bit honest.)
And I LOVE that in Fierce Midnight, Tessa realizes that Jem makes an EFFORT to be as nice and understanding as he is. It’s not just some boy-automaton default. When he’s really upset, he’ll storm off to his room like any other human being. And he has a morbid streak that comes from accepting his situation, an aspect that drives Will bonkers.
And Will, similarly, has details about him that are not so sarcastic, cocky, and harsh as formula would make him out to be. His tough love for his family. His childlike belief that reading Tessa’s letters means he knows her. His emotional dependency on Jem and tendency to romanticize their parabatai bond, even while Jem tries to demystify it, so it can be understood and Will has a chance of moving on after his death. And just the fact that Will WANTS to open up, oh-so badly…
And Tessa. Dear Tessa-baby. Brave. Considerate. Surprisingly forgiving and endlessly loving. Wit like a razor-blade. And yet so very vulnerable… *hugs*
Oh. Right. Shipping. I had some point about shipping.
Oh well….
Oh yeah! Tessa ships! A lot of them! I have them! And flat bad-boy archetypes. Boo!
Yup.
Was that me romanticizing characters again? Sigh. I actually wrote this text post before I read that one thing that Cassie Clare posted about how Jace was different from Will which initiated my slight Will/Tessa shippy feelings (initiated? I think a more correct word would be awakened because they were there all along without me knowing ughhh.
Anyway, while there is still that going on, Will/Tessa is less than a back-up plan. I don’t want it to happen at all. I would want it to happen in some alternate universe where there are two Tessas. I cannot live in a world where Jem dies and/or does not end up with Tessa. I don’t think he is a such a fickle person that he would fall in love with someone else while he’s already engaged to his first love.
What I love about Jem is that while he’s not optimistic per se, he has this sort of practical but easy-going outlook. Like, he sees things as they are, but doesn’t let bad things affect him too negatively?
Will is really passionate, and while I lurves me some passion, sometimes his intensity is just too much for me to handle. Jem has a much more serene persona. Will is just hilarious and I’d love to have him as my best friend or something, but I would want Jem to keep in my pocket forever :3
But yeah, I can understand Gabriel/Tessa (lol, I shipped them a bit in Clockwork Angel), but Tessa/birds? Uh…. XD
Dude, trust me, I didn’t notice how many differences there were between Jace and Will till Clare pointed them out either. (But the beauty of it is now we can’t unsee them.) As for…
#WOAH WHAT DID I WRITE #MY ADHD IS ACTING UP AGAIN #I WENT FROM I SHIP WILL/TESSA TO I DON’T SHIP THEM AT ALL #TO ZOMG I LOVE JEM #THEN TO I ALSO LIKE WILL BECAUSE… #THEN BACK TO JEM MY DARLING #THEN STRANGE TESSA SHIPPINGS #SORRY MY CLUTTERED MIND MAKES NO SENSE
I think it makes some sense. You seem to like Will as a character far more than you like Will/Tessa as a ship. (Or it could be that this is the case with *me* and I’m just projecting…)
Personally, I wanted to see a little more of Will patching up his platonic relationships before his confession to Tessa. I was very glad that Charlotte and Henry were the first folks he ran into after his “curse” lifted. And rather than Will/Tessa, the Will-interaction I look forward to most in Clockwork Princess is Will with Cecilly. Just seeing how he reforms relationships with *everyone,* not simply Tessa.
And I totally agree about the Jem and fickleness thing. It just seems highly unlikely that he’s going to suddenly develop romantic feelings for another character with NO build-up whatsoever. (Unfortunately, this also seems true of Will. We had the mysterious name of “Cecily” uttered in CA, but we now know that’s a fake-out and she’s his sister… and he’s not Jace or Jonathan. He really sees her as his sister. :p )
As for Tessa shipping… I admit that I’m totally guilty of the “back-up plan” mentality. Just… my back-up plan is Simon. Over a hundred years later. :p But this has largely to do with the fact that Tessa is just going to outlive all the nephilim characters regardless of their living full life-spans or no. (I haven’t really bought into the Silent Brother theories. I’ll be really surprised of Clare goes there.)
But yes, I also love Jem’s serenity and the fact that he “hope for different things” in light of his impending death.
Umm… as for Tessa/ Birds… crackship. PURE crackship. From when I was on waaaaaaaayyy too much caffeine. Largely due to Tessa’s comparison of Jem’s heartbeat to fluttering wings. I just kind of imagine her siting and cuddling little feathery things when she has the means. So don’t mind me. :p
I just really love Tessa. It’s not too often that I get as attached to the heroine of the story as I do to the (romantic lead) male characters in a story. But she’s got a combination of qualities that make me really appreciate being in her head. I love how she’s trying to be a good guest, good friend, and a sweet person and think of others. I like her Victorian modesty, and how she slowly learns to bend the rules, but still maintains a certain sense of propriety. The Victorian era is often considered a very judgmental period, but Tessa follows the rules to demonstrate respect the those around her, not simply for the sake of following rules. I get sad when I get on the Clockwork Prince tag and see people calling her stupid or fickle, because to me, she’s the furthest thing from that. Even after she’s believed Will has rejected her romantically (and in the harshest way possible), she still tries to love him as her friend, and I think that shows incredible strength of character.
And… it’s because I feel like I know her and can appreciate her as an individual that I figure I could crossover ship her without too much trouble.
… and yeah. This kind of became another Clockwork Character appreciation post.
I kinda figure you don’t mind? :p
;~; OH GOD GUYS I’VE BEEN SO BUSY INDULGING IN KPOP AND KDRAMAS THAT I MISSED THIS EPIC CONVERSATION?! I HAVE TO JUMP IN. EXCEPT THERE’S NOT MUCH MORE TO SAY ANYMORE, IS THERE, BECAUSE YOU TWO BRILLIANT, FABULOUS PEOPLE COVERED ALL TOPICS.
I have to admit though… I am staunchly Tessa/Jem. I’ve shipped it since I began the series, and it’s hard to sway myself from that. And it’s not that I DISLIKE Will/Tessa so much as I just prefer Jem/Tessa. I APPRECIATE Will/Tessa. I UNDERSTAND Will/Tessa. But where Will and relationships are concerned, I care more about him with Jem and Cecily than I do with Tessa. (Also, because as Gidge pointed out, Will has that almost overly-romantic thing going on. He has childishly assumed he can know and fully understand Tessa because of letters she wrote in dire times. And likewise, Tessa’s affections for Will, while arguably love, could easily be something she’s mislead herself into feeling.)
I want to see what Will without his curse is like. I want to see his interactions with everyone, I want to see how he tries to rebuild bridges or reconstruct them. Because you know things won’t just CHANGE. And he’ll kind of be like a new Will - one you have to get to know all over again. I think it’d likely be both difficult and amazing and I’m so more concerned with that than I am him and Tessa. I want him to come to accept Jem’s possible impending death, and I want him to grow up so he can accept it. His refusal to accept and his petulant clinging to to his romanticized notion of what parabatai are leaves him quite vulnerable and childlike.
Also, as my friend has pointed out… Will just needs to heal before I could even ship him. Unhealthy ships freak me out and I fear if Tessa had gone with Will, he’d have formed that terribly scary dependency upon her has for Jem. And while admittedly he’s far safer clinging to Tessa, dependency in general is bad and it doesn’t make for a good relationship.
I mean, there’s a multitude of reasons why I prefer Jem/Tessa to Will/Tessa - all covered up above. I love how natural Jem and Tessa feel, too. My biggest issue with YA is the concept of instantaneous love, which is unfortunately all too common. My appreciation goes to developed relationships. And while we lose two weeks between Clockwork Angel and Clockwork Prince, we are told Jem is taking Tessa around London and she’s spent most of those two weeks with him. And it is very easy to grow to care for the person who is spending all their time with you. It was a subtle development; even after rereading Clockwork Angel, I can’t quite find a point in which I think I saw Jem falling. Sometimes, I think it was when he took her to Blackfriar’s Bridge, but I think even it must’ve been before that. As noted, yes, Jem is nice, but often he is polite nice, which isn’t really a genuine niceness. It’s not mean, no, but it’s quite the same. And to take her to his favorite place, I feel Jem must already have been attracted to Tessa, must already have felt the stirring, birthed the idea that perhaps possibly maybe she could be that impossible one.
HOWEVER. While I don’t really do “back-up” ships (I agree with Vida in one her initial responses; I’d rather neither to Will/Tessa) I DO ship Tessa/Simon, as something in the future. :3 I just. lafjdlkjfakdjakljfka IT IS CUTE AND SWEET AND NATURAL and I think it would be HEALTHY for the both of them. Steady and comforting. They’d both have had a past of sorts and I think they’d be able to understand each other when the past haunts. Their immortality would draw them together and give them a companion to fill the empty eternity of forever. And I think they would just be good for each other. I can see it so well.
In no way would Simon EVER replace Jem - or Will for that matter. But even if Jem is somehow saved from his addiction, he will die one day. That is life, that is natural, and that is the fatality of loving a mortal.
BUT YEAH I REALLY HOPE CLOCKWORK PRINCESS GIVES ME SOME GREAT MOMENTS BETWEEN WILL AND CECILY.
meeeshelley inquired: "I CANNOT HANDLE ALL THIS DISCUSSION OF THE VERY LOGICAL AND WELL THOUGHT OUT THEORY THAT WILL IS GONNA SACRIFICE HIMSELF IN SOME WAY FOR EITHER JEM OR JEM/TESSA OR EVEN TESSA. I don't want anyone to diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiie. D: D: D: This shit's headed straight to trees, Ashlie and I just cannot. I DON'T KNOW IF MY HEART CAN TAKE ANOTHER "BITTERSWEET" (but actually super tragic) SERIES. I REALLY DON'T."I swear I wake up every day to a new ask from you in hysterics. :33 LET ME HOLD YOU AND CONSOLE YOU MICHELE.
COS. GOD. YOU’RE RIGHT. TREES. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY FOR THIS TO END. TREES. AND I DON’T KNOW IF IT’S WILL OR JEM BUT I DON’T WANT EITHER OF THEM TO BECOME A TREE/DEAD/SILENT BROTHER. (In fact, I would rather they DIE than become a Silent Brother. I AM SO AGAINST THAT IDEA IT’S NOT EVEN FUNNY UGH.)
I don’t want deaths either. :(
Can’t Tessa just tell Jem and Will she loves them both so much she can’t come between them or something?! ;~; Ugh I DON’T KNOW.
WHAT AM I EVEN SAYING?
COS ON THE ONE HAND I DO WANT JEM AND TESSA TO MARRY IT. I WANT IT WITH A CERTAIN KIND OF DESPERATION. I WANT HIM TO BE HAPPY IF HE’S TO DIE.
BUT DAMMIT. WILL. HOW CAN HE BEAR THAT?
AND AFLJDFAKJDA HE /WOULD/ DO ANYTHING TO SAVE JEM OR TESSA OR JEM AND TESSA AND IT’S SCARY AND RECKLESS AND AFLJDLAJDKA AND JEM WOULD WILLINGLY LET HIMSELF DIE BECAUSE HE’S ACCEPTED IT AND UGH UGH UGH MICHELLE FUCKING HOLD ME WHILE OUR TEARS BLEND AND WE DROWN WAAAAUGH ;~;
WE DON’T NEED THIS MICHELLE.
WE HAVE KARTIK THE TREE.
WHY DO WE WANT WILL/JEM THE DEAD/SILENT BROTHER?
NOTHING IS GOING TO BE BITTERSWEET. IT WILL BE HEART-SHATTERING, SOUL RIPPING, HEART CLAWED OUT, DROWNING IN MY OWN TEARS, BODY-RAKING SOBS. THAT IS NOT BITTERSWEET
oh god Michelle oh GOD ;~;
““A Tale of Two Cities,” echoed Will. “I read it again, you know, because we had talked about it. You were right. It isn’t silly at all.” “No?” “No,” he said. “There is too much despair in it.” She met his gaze. His eyes were as blue as lakes; she felt as if she were falling into them. “Despair?” Steadily he said, “There is no future for Sydney, is there, with or without love? He knows he cannot save himself without Lucie, but to let her near him would be to degrade her.” She shook her head. “That is not how I recall it. His sacrifice is noble-“ “It is what is left to him,” said Will. “Do you not recall what he says to Lucie? ‘If it had been possible…that you could have returned the love of the man you see before yourself- flung away, wasted, drunken, poor creature of misuse as you know him to be - he would have been conscious this day and hour, in spite of his happiness, that he would bring you misery, bring you to sorrow and repentance, blight you, disgrace you, pull you down with him-‘” A log fell in the fireplace, sending up a shower of sparks and startling them both and silencing Will; Tessa’s heart leaped, and she tore her eyes away from Will.”—
Will Herondale & Tessa Gray ~ Clockwork Prince
I always feel a sense of impending doom whenever Will mentions A Tale of Two Cities, because you know what is left for him to suffer for the parallels to be complete.
Um. Oh, man.
Poster’s got a point.
Will IDENTIFIES WITH THE “BAD-BOY” CHARACTER THAT DIES FOR HIS LOVE AFTER SHE MARRIES THE “NICE GUY” DUDE.
I may have thought of that in a vague tangential sort of way before, but now I’m actually seeing PARALLELS.
One the one hand, the Will-sympathizer in me is all,
But the Jem/Tessa shipper in me is all,
DON’T MIND ME GIDGE. JUST DOING MY DAILY REBLOG ERRYTHING FROM YOUR BLOG (except I’m SOOOOO EXHAUSTED cos I was in a car all freaking day and I’ve not yet slept but I’m wired and yeah yeah SO BEAR WITH ME AND WHAT MAY BE INCOHERENT THOUGHTS.)
But. This is another something I have contemplated. (I hate to admit I have YET TO READ A TALE OF TWO CITIES and actually did extensive research, because I wanted to understand Will’s parallels.)
And this is YET ANOTHER aspect inwhich I feel torn; because Clare has said that the series isn’t FOLLOWING A Tale of Two Cities in the sort of rewriting sense. She’s said, or alluded, that Will’s identifying with Sydney is more of something IN the book; that he’s just a character who identifies with Sydney.
But. MAN. I DON’T KNOW. It’d almost seem TOO obvious, wouldn’t it? Maybe? I don’t know.
She says it’s not a rerwrite of the book.
But if Will identifies with Sydney, he’d likely act as Sydney at times, wouldn’t he?
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too brain muddled to do this. :( BUT. I just don’t know, given what Clare has said :/ You know?!
I honestly have NO idea how I would feel if it DID take that turn :|
And F@#)K.
Now I’m half-convinced that Will is gonna die to save Jem and Tessa.
I’ve had this theory for a while. Although, I guess mine has been more to save Jem, but, at the same time, he’d do anything to save the BOTH of them, wouldn’t he? It’s just how he is. I just. alfjdfkajlfja
I FEEL LIKE I SEE ALL POSSIBILITIES. And because of this I HAVE NO IDEA HOW I FEEL. Like. NOTHING seems a surprise to me because I literally see ALL POSSIBILITIES and alfjdkfja I DON’T KNOW.
BECAUSE JEM WOULD SACRIFICE HIS HAPPINESS FOR WILL AND TESSA.
AND JEM IS DYING.
BUT WILL HAS /SAID/ HE WOULD DIE FOR JEM. IS THAT FORESHADOWING? HE /TOLD/ JEM that if Mortmain held the key to Jem’s survival, he would do WHATEVER HE HAD TO in order to save Jem.
Even though Jem would rather Will let him die.
And Tessa would rather let neither of them die.
And Will feels he OWES Jem and honor and debt.
And Jem is so practical. He’s already dying.
But.
F;JAFKJFKLJAFKJKAFJKAJFA
MY BRAIN STARTS OVERTHINKING AND IT STARTS TO BREAK :(
meeeshelley inquired: "ASHLIE. I DON'T WANT TO "BE ABLE TO MOVE ON" AFTER CP2. I KNOW WHAT THAT COULD FUCKING MEAN. All her asks about people being heartbroken about all the painful love triangle business all mention starting the healing process. SO I DON'T TRUST THAT MY BEING ABLE TO MOVE ON EVENTUALLY IS A POSITIVE. Fuck fuck fucking fuck. I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIE /never mind that we know they all bite it eventually except for Tessa because of CoG but STIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILL."Michelle. I LOOK FORWARD to these posts, honestly. *_________* I get my daily dose of laughter from your daily messages. (Bang like the world is about to end and then send him away so you can read ugh still lulzing.)
But. MAN. NO. I AGREE. BECAUSE FIRSTLY IT WASN’T JUST A ~GENERAL YOU WILL BE ABLE TO MOVE ON BUT ABOUT /JEM/ FANS. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. HAS SHE TOLD ME MY BABY GETS A TRAGIC DEATH? SHE TOLD ME NO TRAGIC ENDINGS. SHE SAID BITTERSWEET BUY NOT TRAGIC. I CAN NO LONGER TRUST A THING THAT COMES FROM HER MOUTH/FINGER TIPS.
WE WILL NEED TO HUG AFTER THIS MICHELLE. FUCK. NOW I’M GLAD ISLA IS SLATED FOR LATER INSTEAD. I HOPE IT COMES OUT AFTER CP2 COS IT SOUNDS LIKE I’M GOING TO NEED A FLUFFY HAPPILY EVER AFTER AND ONLY STEPHANIE PERKINS WILL BE MAKE TO HEAL MY SHATTERED SOUL.
And fanfics.
BUT NO, PEOPLE WILL DIE. LIKELY IN AN IMMEDIATE SENSE. AND MY HEART WILL SHATTER AS I CHOKE ON MY SOBS AND DROWN IN MY FIND OF SNOT.
Ugh. FUCKING UGH MICHELLE SAVE MY HEART. PLEASE STOP THIS TRAINWRECK BEFORE IT HAPPENS BECAUSE I LOVE EVERYONE SO MUU-UUUU-UUUCH ;~;
Is this a good sign or…?
Why would we have the need to move on in the first place….?
What is going to happen
THESE ARE OMINOUS TIMES INDEED.
…bee art bee hyperventilating and sobbing
meeeshelley inquired: ""In Clockwork Princess, Tessa and her companions travel all over the world as they race to stop the clockwork army before it's too late." -- ALL OVER THE WORLD. omg, I hope I can at least be right about Mortmain going to Shanghai right after he puts Will's family up in his house is significant somehow. LET ME HAVE SOMETHING RIGHT AFTER ALL THE THEORIZING I'VE HAD BLOW UP IN MY FACE.":DDDDDDD THIS IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING I HAVE CONTEMPLATED. THAT IN THEIR WORLDLY TRAVELS THEY WILL GO TO SHANGHAI. OH MICHELLE CAN YOU IMAGINE? POOR JEM, WHO HAS NOT SEEN HIS JUNE SINCE HIS PARENTS DIED, RETURNING. IT WOULD BOTH PAINFUL AND WONDERFUL FOR HIM AND BITTERSWEET AND POSSIBLY PAINFUL AND TDJTAHYSHPGYDHCHSYD
IT HAS TO HAPPEN. THERE IS NO WAY MORTMAIN IN SHANGHAI WOULD NOT PLAY OUT WITHOUT THEM SEARCHING FOR HIM THERE.
I kind of want this REALLY BADLY, MICHELLE.
(RXUGTDIHIFYDUHUDRXUI IMAGINE IF JEM MARRIED TESSA IN SHANGHAAAAAAAAAIIIIIII /DELUSIONAL FANGIRLING)
CLOCKWORK PRINCESS TEASER
Cassie just posted this during the Mundie Moms live chat:
Jem knotted his fingers in the material of Will’s sleeve. “You are my parabatai,” he said. “You said once I could ask anything of you.”
So here are my thoughts on this… Although Jem is fantastic and adorable and even sexy as potatoes (as proved in CP-yum), I believe that in the end Will (also yum) is going to end up with Tessa. I say this without pleasure, as I HATE the idea of losing Jem (or Will, or any of them). Here’s my theory on this spoiler- As much as I’d love for Jem to find a way to keep living, the drug IS killing him. And I personally doubt that they will find a cure because of the spoiler with Magnus and Izzy (CoLS) in which he gets upset and implies that something dreadful happens when one parabatai loses another. I think he’s refering to Jem and the mess that will be Will Herondale when/if Jem dies. :(((((
SO, what I’m thinking about this new spoiler is that Jem is going to ask Will to take care of Tessa for him when he dies. Now, I’m not certain what exactly that will entail, but I think that his request combined with 1. the feelings that Will and Tessa already have for each other and 2. the stress and horrible pain and sadness of losing Jem will bring Will and Tessa together in the end. It’s all rather Pearl Harborish and emotionally confusing :/
That’s just what I’m thinking at this point. Obviously there isn’t any clear-cut, lovely way for this to work out. Cassie’s brilliant and has constructed this dreadful love triangle in which there are no obvious answers and no way for any of our well-beloved characters to come out of it unscathed. Trust me, if that were at all possible, I’d be for it.
Anyway, regardless of how accurate or inaccurate my theories turn out to be, I’m certain that CP2 will be heart-wrenching for all involved, no matter which “team” you’re on. Oh, joy.
You just made my heart break into ten thousand shards. Oh my goodness it’s been broken twenty times this week.That’s a really good speculation. It sounds so likely. However, it is *slightly* cliche. I mean, making someone promise you that they’ll take care of your loved ones? I’m really hoping that it won’t be the case (for obvious reasons, because of course I would shatter if anything happened to lovely Jem), but it might also be that Jem is in fact *dying* in that scene (hence the knotting of his fingers in Will’s shirt), but won’t actually die. Like, maybe he is making Will promise that he’ll take care of Tessa after he’s gone, but Will might not have to fulfill that promise.
But yeah, that snippet is really vague and ambiguous. It could be about anything, really. We can’t do more than take blind guesses right now.
Part of me just wants to behave childishly and stick my fingers in my ears and yell LALALALALALA I’M NOT LISTENING.
But.
I DO think Cassie will find a way for Will and Tessa to end up together. (And I’ve expressed on numerous occasions why I still feel averse to this idea.) It’s just hard for me to wrap my mind around. On the one hand, I agree. It DOES sound kind of cliche - but it also sounds kind of Jem.
Ugh. God I’m having a total moment here right now, too, thinking about Jem dying and I DON’T WANT TO LOSE HIM and I DON’T WANT WILL TO LOSE HIM but sometimes, I think it will happen. That Jem IS going to die, that nothing will save him.
But you’re right in that this could be ANYTHING. It could be Jem asking Will to look after Tessa.
But it could also be Jem asking Will to just let him die. CP2 is supposed to be about Jem’s health worsening, yes? Will has expressed that he will do ANYTHING to save Jem. And Jem says “Unless you were willing to let me die, of course, which would be the sensible course of action.” to which Will replied “I would not be willing.”
So it could also just as well be Jem asking Will to give up.
Or he wants to ask Will the truth about him and Tessa.
Or put him out of his misery.
Or do something else. @________@ It’s such a vague moment that to speculate on it will only cause headaches and possible heartache. :/
UGH I HATE ALL THESE POSTS I’VE BEEN READING LATELY ABOUT JEM DYING because now it seems so likely that he will.
On the one hand, I wouldn’t be surprised if Jem died, because if he were to die it’d be so simple and we’ve sort of been expecting it the entire series, but that’s why at the same time I’D BE SO SUPRISED IF HE DID, precisely because we’ve been expecting it the entire time.
But now it’s just like, what if it’s inevitable? What if he really was meant to die? And I can see how people can justify that and make it seem believable because well, Will actually did see Tessa first, and this is a YA novel. He was the first potential lover of hers to be introduced, thus making most feel closer to him immediately and averse to the idea of anyone else being with Tessa. It’s just one of those things.
And now that you’ve pointed it out, it’d be so in Jem’s character to tell Will to let him die. He wouldn’t want to cause Will any more pain by allowing him to continue looking for a cure. It would not surprise me in the least.
UGH WHY THOUGH. WHY.
Can someone PLEASE just provide us some fluffy spoilers that can ease my angst-ridden soul? I feel like so much anxiety is building up it’s making me ill - which is HARDLY a good thing, given this is a BOOK.
I JUST DON’T WANT JEM TO DIE. INEVITABLE THOUGH IT MAY BE. And maybe that’s how it will go down. Bittersweet and tragic and heartbreaking. And maybe that’s how it will be /RIGHT/ but that’s not how I WANT it to be. UGH. I JUST WISH JEM AND WILL COULD LIVE AND BE BROTHERS FOREVER AND FIGHT DEMONS AND JEM COULD HEAL AND HIS LIFE COULD BE GOOD AGAIN.
BECAUSE HIS LIFE HAS SUCKED SINCE HE WAS 12.
HIS PARENTS WERE KILLED. BASICALLY IN FRONT OF HIM.
WHILE HE WAS BEING TORTURED.
AT TWELVE FREAKING YEARS OLD.
AND THEN HE WAS UPROOTED AND SENT NOT JUST TO A NEW INSTITUTE, TO A NEW COUNTRY, BUT TO AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT CONTINENT.
AND HIS PARENTS WERE DEAD.
AND HE IS DYING.
HE IS ADDICTED TO THE ROOT OF HIS TORTURE.
ADDICTED TO THAT WHICH IS KEEPING HIM ALIVE - AND KILLING HIM.
AND ALL HE WANTED WAS TO BE LOVED AND TO LOVE IN THE SAME WAY HIS PARENTS DID. THE KIND OF LOVE PEOPLE WRITE POETRY ABOUT.
;~; I just want him to be happy.
I want him to have a HAPPY moment in his life for once, to have someone to love, to love him. I don’t want him to die alone. I don’t want him to die knowing Tessa stood between him and Will. Or. I don’t know. My brain is malfunctioning again.
I just. :( I WANT JEM AND TESSA TO GET MARRIED AND FOR WILL TO BE HAPPY FOR THEM AND TO HEAL OR SOMETHING I DON’T KNOW. IF JEM IS GOING TO DIE, I WANT HIM TO DIE HAPPY AND LOVED AND FEELING FULFILLED.
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I have so much feelings and everything hurts so much more tonight. :(
Yeah. I’d just. :| I GUESS AT THIS POINT I DO expect Cassie to miraculously save Jem. If he dies I will be stunned, and brokenhearted. An inconsolable mess :| Losing Jem feels like losing someone I love.
(AND TO BE FAIR, I WILL BE AN INCONSOLABLE MESS IF WILL DIES, AS WELL.)
I just. :|
I don’t know what to expect anymore. I just want the book. I just want to KNOW.
;~;
Ugh Jem WOULD tell Will to let him die. He’s already asked them to stop looking for a cure. He doesn’t want them to get their hopes up. And he doesn’t want Will to risk everything to save him. (Except I know/think/expect Will would. No matter what Jem plead. :/)
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I JUST LOVE EVERYONE AND IT ALL REALLY HURTS.
:(
CassandraClare: Clockwork Princess, um…. fast=paced, bittersweet, epilogue?
WHAT IN THE WORLD IS THAT.
;~;
Pardon my tears.
CassandraClare: If Tessa wins the tournament, it’s the Jem/Tessa scene from Cp from Jem’s POV. There was a poll, that was what won!
It’s such a great thing no one can ever see me when I’m on Tumblr, because I LEGIT clawed at the air and then clawed at my fringe and tugged on it. (I have found this to be a weird habit of mine. :| In the past couple weeks, whenever I feel anxious/nervous/emotional/excited, I tug at my fringe. Like, I comb my fingers through and PULL. Weird. Yes.)
BUT ANYWAY YAAAAAAY IT WON IN THE END. I WILL DO ANYTHING I CAN TO MAKE SURE TESSA WINS OH GOD I NEED THIS SCENE FROM JEM’S POINT OF VIEW AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH YES.
CLOCKWORK PRINCESS TEASER
Cassie just posted this during the Mundie Moms live chat:
Jem knotted his fingers in the material of Will’s sleeve. “You are my parabatai,” he said. “You said once I could ask anything of you.”
So here are my thoughts on this… Although Jem is fantastic and adorable and even sexy as potatoes (as proved in CP-yum), I believe that in the end Will (also yum) is going to end up with Tessa. I say this without pleasure, as I HATE the idea of losing Jem (or Will, or any of them). Here’s my theory on this spoiler- As much as I’d love for Jem to find a way to keep living, the drug IS killing him. And I personally doubt that they will find a cure because of the spoiler with Magnus and Izzy (CoLS) in which he gets upset and implies that something dreadful happens when one parabatai loses another. I think he’s refering to Jem and the mess that will be Will Herondale when/if Jem dies. :(((((
SO, what I’m thinking about this new spoiler is that Jem is going to ask Will to take care of Tessa for him when he dies. Now, I’m not certain what exactly that will entail, but I think that his request combined with 1. the feelings that Will and Tessa already have for each other and 2. the stress and horrible pain and sadness of losing Jem will bring Will and Tessa together in the end. It’s all rather Pearl Harborish and emotionally confusing :/
That’s just what I’m thinking at this point. Obviously there isn’t any clear-cut, lovely way for this to work out. Cassie’s brilliant and has constructed this dreadful love triangle in which there are no obvious answers and no way for any of our well-beloved characters to come out of it unscathed. Trust me, if that were at all possible, I’d be for it.
Anyway, regardless of how accurate or inaccurate my theories turn out to be, I’m certain that CP2 will be heart-wrenching for all involved, no matter which “team” you’re on. Oh, joy.
You just made my heart break into ten thousand shards. Oh my goodness it’s been broken twenty times this week.That’s a really good speculation. It sounds so likely. However, it is *slightly* cliche. I mean, making someone promise you that they’ll take care of your loved ones? I’m really hoping that it won’t be the case (for obvious reasons, because of course I would shatter if anything happened to lovely Jem), but it might also be that Jem is in fact *dying* in that scene (hence the knotting of his fingers in Will’s shirt), but won’t actually die. Like, maybe he is making Will promise that he’ll take care of Tessa after he’s gone, but Will might not have to fulfill that promise.
But yeah, that snippet is really vague and ambiguous. It could be about anything, really. We can’t do more than take blind guesses right now.
Part of me just wants to behave childishly and stick my fingers in my ears and yell LALALALALALA I’M NOT LISTENING.
But.
I DO think Cassie will find a way for Will and Tessa to end up together. (And I’ve expressed on numerous occasions why I still feel averse to this idea.) It’s just hard for me to wrap my mind around. On the one hand, I agree. It DOES sound kind of cliche - but it also sounds kind of Jem.
Ugh. God I’m having a total moment here right now, too, thinking about Jem dying and I DON’T WANT TO LOSE HIM and I DON’T WANT WILL TO LOSE HIM but sometimes, I think it will happen. That Jem IS going to die, that nothing will save him.
But you’re right in that this could be ANYTHING. It could be Jem asking Will to look after Tessa.
But it could also be Jem asking Will to just let him die. CP2 is supposed to be about Jem’s health worsening, yes? Will has expressed that he will do ANYTHING to save Jem. And Jem says “Unless you were willing to let me die, of course, which would be the sensible course of action.” to which Will replied “I would not be willing.”
So it could also just as well be Jem asking Will to give up.
Or he wants to ask Will the truth about him and Tessa.
Or put him out of his misery.
Or do something else. @________@ It’s such a vague moment that to speculate on it will only cause headaches and possible heartache. :/
CLOCKWORK PRINCESS TEASER (Featuring Jem and Will)
SO MANY FEELINGS, UGH. I can already tell that scene is going to break my heart.
;~; I know. I know. I don’t even know what to THINK about it right now. (Like, literally, my brain is not working.)
Some parts of the chat with Cassie Clare..
I wasn’t home during the Mundie Moms chat w/Cassie Clare, but I’m reading the chat right now and some things that stick out at me (spoilers!):
I need this on my dash. And I love the things that stood out to you. OH. Oh. OH.
The thoughts my brain is having. I cannot PROCESS all of these thoughts. I cannot express to you the way my mind is on the fritz and overworking, overthinking, overassuming, OVER DOING EVERYTHING.
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